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Pokehigh Changes

Post by Rico on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:46 pm

Back in October we asked you which RP you thought needed the most work to make it fun and enjoyable for all users. More than 20% of all responses listed Pokehigh as a major problem and this is the first step at addressing that.

From now on, the teacher role is not a part of the Pokehigh RP. There will be no rolecalling for teachers at the start of the RP. All teaching must be done by either the host, or their co-hosts. This is just one of the changes we have in mind, but is the one we think will have the most positive impact on the RP.


Why is this the change we're making? The issues we've identified with the RP are Bad teachers, bad classes, bad students and lazy hosts. There is zero quality control for teachers and the classes they run, RPers have absolutely no choice in what they're going to have to deal with for another 30-90 minutes. This is also why hosts tend to be fairly 'lazy', as there's nothing that they actually need to do. Just have a doc, ask who wants to teach and you're done. This is not in line with how the RP room works... you vote for a host because you want to experience the roleplay they can bring to you.

So we're hoping that removing the teacher role and thus forcing hosts to be more proactive in the hosting of their RP will improve the first two issues and hopefully see more willing engagement from students as well.


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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by BlueDogXL on Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:56 pm

Seconded
Before the change, I (Hypothetically, of course) as the host, could take a 30-minute nap and let the teachers and co do all the work. Assuming endpoll immunity, obviously.
And waiting on teachers is annoying as heck anyway. Having only one or two people teaching will help with that. Good call.

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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Kaitlyn(Milotic) on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:05 pm

I approve of this change. Before, Pokehigh was the easiest Roleplay to host. Even easier than CQ, Where all you do is announce whatever you are told really, Before this in PH, You only call out roles and tell when classes change and thats mostly it, doc updating, role calling, and telling when classes changed. Other people did the rest iof the work. I think itas better this way, The host does more, And depending on the host, More will get done, Better teachings and suuch.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by MeninhatheMismagius24 on Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:11 pm

Meh, fair XP. I gotta say even for me (not an active RPer all the time) these sound pretty fair, cuz I mean PokeHigh is kinda lousy sometimes.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Fervis on Mon Feb 06, 2017 4:16 am

I approve of this change as long as the host does not ask for cohosts who want to be teachers. In my opinion, that kinda makes the change useless.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Psychoreality on Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:57 am

Fervis wrote:I approve of this change as long as the host does not ask for cohosts who want to be teachers. In my opinion, that kinda makes the change useless.
Addressing this, having one or two co-hosts assisting with teaching shouldn't be an issue. I know that personally if I see more than 2 cohosts in any RP, I start to get suspicious, so if PokeHigh ends up swarming with co-hosts then a revision will probably be made. The point of the change is to get the host to actually control their roleplay and make sure people don't destroy it, and a co-host or two doesn't immediately make that change worthless.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Kiraro The Kitsune on Mon Feb 06, 2017 6:06 pm

Poke High is probably the roleplay that gets more endpolls, or so I think. Users that don't roleplay much in the room or talk at all request a teacher role and then go away from the keyboard or even disconnect and care less about what happens to the roleplay. By removing the teacher role calling the host will do more, depending on users will no longer be a problem, classes can now be longer and not just simple 5 to 15 minutes maybe. There have been classes extremely short and host just goes away and forgets to announce the change of classes or completely forget that they are even hosts by roaming away in the real world or pay more attention to other rooms. I guess it is finally time to view better Poke High documents and a whole lot less charts in them.

Also, finally classes can have more interaction than just talking and asking questions go to next class and keep on going. Not all users that were called to be teachers used their own documents to make tests or assignments, Google Forms is a perfect way to introduce actual work to the roleplay even if the students don't answer it right. Still, great change hope to see Poke High live again, we just need Freeroam to be left aside for once.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Rico on Mon Feb 06, 2017 7:48 pm

Psychoreality wrote:
Fervis wrote:I approve of this change as long as the host does not ask for cohosts who want to be teachers. In my opinion, that kinda makes the change useless.
Addressing this, having one or two co-hosts assisting with teaching shouldn't be an issue. I know that personally if I see more than 2 cohosts in any RP, I start to get suspicious, so if PokeHigh ends up swarming with co-hosts then a revision will probably be made. The point of the change is to get the host to actually control their roleplay and make sure people don't destroy it, and a co-host or two doesn't immediately make that change worthless.

Echoing this, having a co-host to do a class or two is fine, but if any RP (not just pokehigh) has more than a couple cohosts, eyebrows will be raised. If people abuse the cohost thing for pokehigh, most likely we will put a hard-limit on co-hosts for all RPs.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Day of the Dead on Tue Feb 07, 2017 3:50 pm

This is fair enough. I have been not in favor of the lessons that quite a few of the 'teachers' assign. Though, we'll see if PokeHigh is still flawed after this.

Though this allows more freedom in what the host can do, with describing specific rooms in docs. Hosts will have to organize their own lesson plans and make their own classes. One more step towards perfection.
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Great call, guys.

Post by ParisKitten on Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:56 am

I think this is an excellent idea. I used to avoid Pokehigh because of teachers not showing up, teachers doing a lazy job, students misbehaving drastically and hosts sitting back while trouble ensued. Now I'm confident that a major problem has been removed and one day I might enjoy Pokehigh again.

Cheers, guys!

Pariskitten out. cheers
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Spyke (Gallade) on Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:40 am

This is a drastic change, but I agree that it's for the best. Before this, who taught us was basically whoever had the quickest sniping skills, but now we actually vote on who's going to teach us. So yeah I agree with this. Maybe I'll even do PokeHigh a little from now on, instead of avoiding it like the plague!
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Allyson(Ninetales) on Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:25 am

Can't believe I missed this, anyways this is a very nice solution or answer to make PokeHigh a better RP. It actually challenges the host not just on their capability to handle lots of people, but to actually lay down a lesson/plot that allows the roleplayers to interact in a classroom based RP.
After so long, I'm starting to have high hopes for PokeHigh once more.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Kevinselvan on Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:23 am

Teacher?
i think that the problem with poke high is not the teachers but rather the atmosphere.
It's always the same. The teachers the students, the attempts at making this an anime where you think you are the main character...
But then what i have noticed is that it has a lot, i mean a lot of realtion sto the cursed place we all call.. real world.
For me rpng is about getting out of the reality that confines, us...the reality that i never like..the reality that is infact more real than what you or i have seen.
and almost every pokehigh has violated this..that i don't like...

This has been a rant by kevin
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Kiraro The Kitsune on Sun Feb 12, 2017 7:08 am

Sadly there is nothing more real than school. No matter how you put it school is too real and the same thing in a magical ir real way; a prison where you are forced to study. And yeah, all PokeHigh are pretty much the same. You wake up, you get to the bus, you get to school, you get greeted by the principal, you keep doing 5 minute classes and lastly, you get salty because there's and endpoll running. But that has nothing at all to do with the role play or the roleplayers and rather the hosts creativity. We just need a host that makes a school different, even though school just can't be different

We just need a valiant host that makes a great and enjoyable school that for once does not get endpoll bombarded. Tho, the change is still a great idea.

Also, how is the real world cursed!? It's terrible, hard and destroyed but... But... Well, yeah, its a cursed realm nobody cares about.
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Re: Pokehigh Changes

Post by Rico on Sun Feb 12, 2017 8:14 am

I find that generally after you leave your teens the real world stops seeming as terrible and hard and cursed as you thought when your biggest concern was whether mum packed your lunch today or not.

RP is one of those things... there's no wrong or right thing to RP, and some people enjoy school based RPs. In a school based RP you can do things you'd never manage to do in real life, such as show up at all your classes, have friends, be loved by your family or answer questions correctly.


Sass aside, there's always going to be a type of RP that makes no sense to you as to why it's popular. Sometimes you just want to RP as something you're already doing. Funnily enough, a school based RP was one of my favourite things back when I had just gotten out of school. I played a spellcaster going to wizard school. Most of what I did was just socialise with my fellow classmates and occasionally attend a class. That was wicked fun. RP is what you make of it.

This has been up for nearly a week now so I'll be locking it and its poll. Thank you for letting us know your thoughts. Most of our major decisions going forward will include a poll. These polls don't always mean we'll keep with an idea or reverse it, but they do help us gauge how the community feels about certain things.
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