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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:47 pm

Dragonite99 wrote:
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Wolfemblemstudios wrote:Mega Dunsparce
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Base Stats: HP: 100|atk:70|Def: 70|Sp. A: 65|Sp. D:65|Spe:45|BST:415
Mega Stats: HP: 100|Atk: 120 (+50)|Def: 100 (+30)|Sp. A: 45 (-20)|Sp. D: 65|Spe: 85 (+40)|BST:515 (+100)

Artifact: Dunsparcite
Ability: Aerilate
Type: Normal/Flying OR Pure Flying

Reasons for losing Normal
- Aerilate makes normal moves into flying moves thus making normal stab irrelevant.
- Resistance to Fighting.
-Personal opinion that dunsparce should remain a single type ((can't really explain this point better))

Reasons for retaining Normal type
-Ghost Immunity
-Type Continuity
-More Likely Nintendo Choice

Sample Sets

Lead Set up/Last Resort Sweeper
Dunsparce @ Dunsparcite
126 Atk, 252 Def(+), 126 Spe, Sp. A(-)
Moves:
Glare
Stealth Rocks
Facade/return/Frustration/Agility
Last Resort/Earthquake

If Agility, then I recommend not Earthquake as fliers/levitaters wall it. Also, if not running Earthquake, Bulky steel or rock types will wall it.

Agility Set
Dunsparce @Dunsparcite
252 HP; 126 Atk(+); 126 Def; 44 Spe; Sp A(-)
Moves:
Agility
Return/Facade/Frustration
Earthquake
Coil/Roost/Glare/Covering Move

Sub-Coil Set
Dunsparce @ Dunsparcite
252 HP;4 Atk;Sp. Atk (-);252 Sp. Def (+)
Moves:
Coil
Substitute
Return/Facade/Frustration
Earthquake/Roost

Honestly I don't think Mega Dunsparce should be Pure Flying nor Normal/Flying as we already have many of those.
I see Mega Dunsparce being either Normal/Dragon type or even Dragon/Fairy type.

i think it would most likely be part Ground-type in some way (Normal-Ground...??) or even part Bug (I mean that's what it looks like, oui?) i can't see it becoming Dragon-Fairy, tho


Its called The Land Snake Pokemon via its Pokedex entry so its not a bug its a reptile and also its mainly based on a serpentine Japanese cryptid and its also partly based of the legendary serpents of Mesoamericans due to its feathered wings. (They lived in Mexico, Central America and South America.

And also did anyone expect Ampharos' Mega Evolution to be part Dragon type before it was revealed? No they did not.

Honestly if Gamefreak actually makes a Mega Dunsparce it could be these types:

Normal/Dragon (Likely)
Normal/Ground (Likely)
Dragon/Fairy (Unlikely but still possible)
or even Dragon/Flying (I seriously hope not)

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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Galom on Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:44 pm

It would either be pure Normal or Normal/Dragon. I can't really see it being anything else.

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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Elekikiss on Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:01 pm

Again, primary types don't change
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:02 pm

Elekikiss wrote:Again, primary types don't change

Who said a Pokemons primary type cannot change? .-.
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Elekikiss on Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:36 am

All the mega Evolutions so far point to the primary type staying the same while the 2nd type potentially changing
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Tue Apr 21, 2015 12:45 am

Elekikiss wrote:All the mega Evolutions so far point to the primary type staying the same while the 2nd type potentially changing

The thing is we don't know that for sure unless someone from Gamefreak says that a Pokémon's primary type cannot change and seeing how Gamefreak is known to be unpredictable anything is possible.
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Galom on Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:46 am

Let's Mega some Gen V Pokes.

Mega Hydreigon
Dark/Dragon-type
92 HP | 125 Atk (+20) | 110 Def (+20) | 155 SpA (+30) | 110 SpD (+20) | 108 Spe (+10) || BST: 700 (+100)
Ability: Mega Launcher
Artifact: Hydreigonite

Essentially, it grows legs, bulks up, and gets a stat boost in every field. With massive stats in both Atk and SpA as well as impressive natural bulk, Mega Hydreigon can run anything from fully physical to fully special sets, and anything in between. Mega Luncher gives extra punch to a few of its special attacks, and allows it to hit even harder with its already-obscene special attack.

Sample set (all out attacker):

Hydreigon @ Hydreigonite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Dragon Pulse
- Dark Pulse
- Earth Power
- Fire Blast

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Mega Accelgor
Bug/Fighting-type
80 HP | 80 Atk (+10) | 60 Def (+20) | 145 SpA (+45) | 80 SpD (+20) | 160 Spe (+15) || BST: 595 (+100)
Ability: No Guard
Artifact: Accelgorite

Your typical glass cannon, Mega Accelgor emerges as a fantastic cleaner once all priority users on the opposing team have been removed. Despite its pitiful defenses, it has the ability to easily clean teams once its threats are dealt with. With its new Fighting-typing and No Guard, Focus Blast becomes a powerful and accurate STAB option, and lets Mega Accelgor smash past the many Steels that infest OU.

Sample set (lategame cleaner):

Accelgor @ Accelgorite
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute

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Mega Escavalier
Bug/Steel-type
70 HP | 185 Atk (+50) | 130 Def (+25) | 60 SpA | 130 SpD (+25) | 20 Spe || BST: 595 (+100)
Ability: Intimidate
Artifact: Escavalite

Naturally, if I was going to make Mega Accelgor a fast sweeper, Mega Escavalier had to be a hard-hitting tank. Wielding as much attack as Mega Heracross, Mega Escavalier emerges with Intimidate, allowing it to switch in on threats like Scizor even more easily.

Sample set (wallbreaker):

Escavalier @ Escavalite
Ability: Overcoat
248 HP / 4 Def / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Megahorn
- Iron Head
- Knock Off
- Drill Run

Tiers?

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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Dragonite99 on Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:28 pm

Rubber Ducky Z wrote:
Dragonite99 wrote:
Rubber Ducky Z wrote:
Wolfemblemstudios wrote:Mega Dunsparce
Picture:

Base Stats: HP: 100|atk:70|Def: 70|Sp. A: 65|Sp. D:65|Spe:45|BST:415
Mega Stats: HP: 100|Atk: 120 (+50)|Def: 100 (+30)|Sp. A: 45 (-20)|Sp. D: 65|Spe: 85 (+40)|BST:515 (+100)

Artifact: Dunsparcite
Ability: Aerilate
Type: Normal/Flying OR Pure Flying

Reasons for losing Normal
- Aerilate makes normal moves into flying moves thus making normal stab irrelevant.
- Resistance to Fighting.
-Personal opinion that dunsparce should remain a single type ((can't really explain this point better))

Reasons for retaining Normal type
-Ghost Immunity
-Type Continuity
-More Likely Nintendo Choice

Sample Sets

Lead Set up/Last Resort Sweeper
Dunsparce @ Dunsparcite
126 Atk, 252 Def(+), 126 Spe, Sp. A(-)
Moves:
Glare
Stealth Rocks
Facade/return/Frustration/Agility
Last Resort/Earthquake

If Agility, then I recommend not Earthquake as fliers/levitaters wall it. Also, if not running Earthquake, Bulky steel or rock types will wall it.

Agility Set
Dunsparce @Dunsparcite
252 HP; 126 Atk(+); 126 Def; 44 Spe; Sp A(-)
Moves:
Agility
Return/Facade/Frustration
Earthquake
Coil/Roost/Glare/Covering Move

Sub-Coil Set
Dunsparce @ Dunsparcite
252 HP;4 Atk;Sp. Atk (-);252 Sp. Def (+)
Moves:
Coil
Substitute
Return/Facade/Frustration
Earthquake/Roost

Honestly I don't think Mega Dunsparce should be Pure Flying nor Normal/Flying as we already have many of those.
I see Mega Dunsparce being either Normal/Dragon type or even Dragon/Fairy type.

i think it would most likely be part Ground-type in some way (Normal-Ground...??) or even part Bug (I mean that's what it looks like, oui?) i can't see it becoming Dragon-Fairy, tho


Its called The Land Snake Pokemon via its Pokedex entry so its not a bug its a reptile and also its mainly based on a serpentine Japanese cryptid and its also partly based of the legendary serpents of Mesoamericans due to its feathered wings. (They lived in Mexico, Central America and South America.

And also did anyone expect Ampharos' Mega Evolution to be part Dragon type before it was revealed? No they did not.

Honestly if  Gamefreak actually makes a Mega Dunsparce it could be these types:

Normal/Dragon (Likely)
Normal/Ground (Likely)
Dragon/Fairy    (Unlikely but still possible)
or even Dragon/Flying (I seriously hope not)


i never knew what its species was, so that's probably why i thought it was a bug x.x
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:17 am

Alright this thread seems to have died completely but regardless I am going to post these anyways.

I present to you.....Mega Eelektross X and Mega Eelektross Y!

Mega Eelektross X: | Mega Stone name: Eelektrossite X
Type: Electric/Dragon
Ability: Hustle
Normal Stats: 85 HP | 115 Attack | 80 Defense | 105 Special Attack | 80 Special Defense | 50 Speed
Mega Stats: 85 HP (+0) | 140 Attack (+25) | 115 (+35) | 115 Special Attack (+10) | 120 Special Defense (+40) | 40 Speed (-10)

Electric/Dragon typing gives Eelektross more weaknesses but its gives it resistances to water,fire, and grass type moves and it now has a x4 resistance to electric.
Hustle basically gives Mega Eelektross X a choice band boost but at the cost of accuracy.
140 base Attack backed by Hustle means Eelektross is going to hit really hard. The extra bulk makes Eelektross much harder to kill. A slight special attack boost allows it the option to go mixed if you want it to. Its speed  is reduced but Eelektross was always slow anyways and it has the bulk and resistances to take a few hits.

Example Moveset:

Bulky Coil Attacker
Eelektross @ Eelektrossite X
Ability: Levitate ---> Hustle

EVS: You decide
- Coil
- Thunder Punch/Wild Charge
- Dragon Claw/Dragon Tail/Outrage
- Drain Punch/Knock Off/Fire Punch/Superpower

Now to the next one
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Mega Eelektross Y | Mega Stone name Eelektrossite Y
Type: Electric/Poison
Ability: Levitate
Normal Stats: 85 HP | 115 Attack | 80 Defense | 105 Special Attack | 80 Special Defense | 50 Speed
Mega Stats: 85 HP | 80 Attack (-35) | 90 Defense (+10) | 170 Special Attack (+65) | 80 Special Defense (+0) | 110 Speed  (+60)

Electric/Poison typing gives Mega Eelektross Y resistances to Fighting, Bug, Poison, Grass, and Fairy while giving it a weakness to Psychic and amplifying its weakness to ground.
Levitate cancels out its x4 weakness to ground unless the opposing Pokémon has Mold Breaker or if Smack Down or Gravity is in effect.
Its attack is greatly decreased but this allows its Special Attack and Speed to skyrocket by 65 and 60 respectively while also giving a slight boost to its defence so it hits hard and fast.

Example Moveset:

Acid Spray Attacker
Eelektross @ Eelektrossite Y
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD OR 4 Atk/ 252 Spe
Jolly/Naive Nature
- Acid Spray
- Thunderbolt/Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Giga Drain/Dragon Pulse/Knock Off

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So in my opinion either one or both of these Megas could be banned to Ubers or at least viable in Ubers.
What do you guys think about these my 2 Mega evolutions for Eelektross?
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Elekikiss on Thu Apr 23, 2015 8:44 am

While it's interesting, giving 2 megas are usually reserved for the main mascots pf Pokémon >;. And thanks for posting. I haven't had any (good) ideas to resurrect the thread with
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Dragonite99 on Thu Apr 23, 2015 4:31 pm

I think I want to introduce a new sub-type of Mega evolution!

let's use... hm, Milotic for an example.
Maybe Omega Milotic and Alpha Milotic. Idk, it was just a stupid thing I came up with XD I mean, there are already X and Y, and the two Primal Reversions were saved for Groudon/Kyogre. ASOR didn't bring in any new sub-typed Megas (at least, none i can think of) so it would kinda make sense, right?
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Wolfemblemstudios on Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:27 pm

Giving Hustle to a mega would be an annoyance in my opinion, I know it gets coil, but I'd rather it got and ability that only gave positive perks, as opposed toan ability that comes with negative repercussions. Also, I agree with Elekikiss, double megas doesn't make sense for just any pokemon and there probably won't be another x/y set of megas because that was for Pokemon x/y.

Mega Eelektross would probably gain Dragon typing. As for its ability it would either keep Levitate or get Lightning Rod/Volt Absorb.

Or maybe become Electric/Water with storm drain.

I'm partial to the electric /dragon one though over electric /water.

Just my Opinion.
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Thu Apr 23, 2015 11:58 pm

Wolfemblemstudios wrote:Giving Hustle to a mega would be an annoyance in my opinion, I know it gets coil, but I'd rather it got  and ability that only gave positive perks, as opposed toan ability that comes with negative repercussions. Also, I agree with Elekikiss, double megas doesn't make sense for just any pokemon and there probably won't be another x/y set of megas because that was for Pokemon x/y.  

Mega Eelektross would probably gain Dragon typing. As for its ability it would either keep Levitate or get Lightning Rod/Volt Absorb.  

Or maybe become Electric/Water with storm drain.  

I'm partial to the electric /dragon one though over electric /water.

Just my Opinion.

I choose Hustle over Tough Claws because I wanted it to be more unique and I don't want to give all my physically based Megas Tough Claws

Lightningrod or Volt Absorb would  be useless on Mega Eelektross if it became Electric/Dragon because it already has a x4 resistance to electric and its already
immune to paralysis.

And besides these are just my own fan-made megas so if GameFreak DOES make a Mega Eelektross it most likely won't be similar to mine besides the possible Electric/Dragon typing.
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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Rubber Ducky Z on Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:29 am

Alright this might be the last Fakemon I will post for a while but I'll still comment on other peoples fakemons.

Regupleura | Name origin: Regular + Arthopleura | Species name: The Alphapede Fakemon
Type: Bug/Normal
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Appearance:
It has some similarities with Scolipede. It has a Flattened head with 4 blue eyes and 2 fangs unlike Scolipede. It has 4 sky blue antenna with the 2nd pair being smaller than the 1st  It has its head and neck low to the ground most the time like a real life centipede does. Most of its carapace is light grey in color and has a few spikes but its underbelly is sky blue in color. It's body is longer than a scolipedes also has 6 legs with 2 red claws instead of the 4 that a Scolipede has.
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135 HP | 120 Attack | 105 Defense | 40 Special Attack | 127 Special Defense | 63 Speed | Total: 590
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87.5% chance of being Male or 12.5% chance of being Female.

Abilities: Battle Armor, Sap Sipper |
Hidden Ability: Multiscale
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Height: 11' 9" (When it has its head and neck lifted up in the air)
Weight: 892.4 Pounds
Egg Group: Bug/Field

Pokedex Entries:
OR: Thought to be a ancient relative of Scolipede that has survived several mass extinctions events by hibernating deep inside caves.
AS: Despite being very large and fierce looking this Pokémon is actually a docile herbivore.

Regupleura does not evolve.

Level Up Moves:

Start: Megahorn
Start: Heavy Slam
Start: Iron Defence
Start: Body Slam
Level 7: Bug Bite
Level 15: Quick Attack
Level 19: Confuse Ray
Level 23: Stockpile
Level 28: Assurance
Level 31: Rest
Level 35: Steamroller
Level 39: Horn Leech
Level 41: Protect
Level 45: Poison Jab
Level 49: Spikes
Level 51: Megahorn
Level 54: Reversal
Level 61: Double Edge

TM/HM Moves
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM12 Taunt
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM22 Solarbeam
TM23 Smack Down
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM32 Double Team
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Façade
TM43 Flame Charge
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM54 False Swipe
TM60 Quash
TM66 Payback
TM67 Retaliate
TM68 Giga Impact
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM75 Swords Dance
TM76 Struggle Bug
TM77 Psych Up
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM81 X-Scissor
TM83 Infestation
TM84 Poison Jab
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-Turn
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Secret Power
TM100 Confide
HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash

Egg Moves:

-Fell Stinger
-Sucker Punch
-Pursuit
-Belly Drum
-Camouflage
-Fake Out
-Slack Off
-Toxic Spikes
-Quick Attack
-String Shot
-Twineedle
-Baton Pass

Tutor Moves:

-Snore
-Water Pulse
-Shock Wave
-Covet
-Signal Beam
-Knock Off
-Endeavor
-Iron Tail
-Aqua Tail
-Last Resort
-Foul Play
-Superpower
-Outrage
-Gastro Acid
-Block
-Magic Coat
-Iron Defense
-Heal Bell
-Electroweb
-Seed Bomb

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So what do you guys think about this fakemon and possibly what tier it would be in if it actually existed.
Also I know I kinda went a little overboard with the amount of moves it can learn.


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Re: Theorymonning!

Post by Wolfemblemstudios on Fri Apr 24, 2015 9:35 am

I'd say this would be OU. Good Sp D. Bulk, decent Def bulk, and capable if hitting hard,physically.  It's not speedy, but I could see like a scolipede easily baton passing to this thing.  throw in Weakness policy + Mutiscale, and this guy is a win condition.  A Phyysical wall who is set up already could wall him, but with swords dance, that could be overcome.  Also, he has the option of being a complete wall, physical and special. It's a bit easier to be a physical wall with Iron defense, but he also has stockpile, and amnesia is a plausible move I could see him use.
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